The Mazatec Indians use it in their spiritual rituals for healing and to gain answers. Modern-day shamans also use the plant called salvia divinorum in their quests for spiritual answers. No wonder it’s known as a teacher plant.

It is indeed incredibly unique in terms of its place in human culture, and it has risen from an enigmatic past to a place of controversy in modern culture. So does it have anything to offer the modern seeker? I believe that it does.

Its Mystical Origins

The Mazatec call the plant “ska Maria Pastora”, or “leaves of the Virgin Mary, the Shepherdess”. They believe that it was the Virgin Mary who gave it to them.

Botanists consider it a cultigen, and it does not flourish in the wild through pollination. Some reports mistakenly state that salvia divinorum only grows wild in the Oaxaca region of Mexico. This isn’t entirely accurate. The reality is that the Mazatec Indians who live in that region have cultivated the plant for hundreds of years. Without being cultivated its chances of survival are slim for one reason - it is essentially sterile. While in the wild it has been known to send leaves to the ground where they then start to grow roots, it is primarily propagated by human cultivation where cuttings are taken and then replanted.

Since it was first discovered by modern culture in the 20th century there have been a hand full of documented cases where cross-pollination did result in enough viable seeds to produce a new plant. This means that all the salvia grown today are clones of one of a handful of unique plants.

So here we have a plant that the Indian peoples believe was given to them by a divine being. They have cared for it, respected it, and learned from it. As others have noted, there is a symbiotic relationship between humans and this plant. It depends on human cultivation through cloning as its primary method of propagating itself. In turn, ska Maria pastora provides humans with a unique and powerful way to explore human consciousness. And many who have experienced its effects will say that the plant seems to have a consciousness of its own - perhaps a common consciousness shared between all the cloned offsprings.

I do not judge such cultures as the Mazatec for their use of mind-altering substances. Their practices show that, when approached in the right way, entheogens can be beneficial to society as well as the individual. It is with this in mind that I decided to explore what this plant has to offer and actually step into the salvia world.

My First Experience with Salvia Divinorum

One thing should be explained, and that is there is a difference between the method that the Mazatec use to ingest the plant and the method employed by many modern users. The Mazatec slowly chew the leaves, but many in modern culture smoke not just regular leaves but leaves that have been infused with higher concentrations of the active ingredient salvinorin A. These are identified as extracts. So 10x extract refers to leaves which contain, because of this infusion, 10 times the level of salvinorin A that is contained in standard leaves.

It was with 10x extract that I was introduced to the salvia world.

As many others have reported, the effects began dramatically upon exhaling after holding the smoke in for 15-20 seconds. The folds of the material I was sitting on began to glow and flow away from me, continuing off into some vanishing point. Pulled, stretched, or just flowing - I’m not sure which, but with the movement came a stretching musical note that turned into something that sounded like a jingle from a children’s TV show. It felt as if I had been singing the jingle all along and just incorporated it into this dream. My front teeth felt like they also were being pulled with the flow.

That was the extent of the visual experience which was nothing compared to what came next.

Somehow I “knew” at a deeper level that the lines flowing away from me were actually a community of beings that I can only describe as a cross between teletubbies and Floop’s fooglies (from the movie Spy Kids). They were all gathering to what I sensed was a huge tree. As they gathered they were accompanied by the jingle. The other day I was listening to that Beatles song “I am the Walrus” when I heard a part that reminded me of the feeling that I got from the salvia music.

Pretty creepy, actually. This was not a light, merry experience. The cartoon-like entities seemed to be chastizing me - as if I was supposed to be going with them but wasn’t being responsible enough to get with the program. I could feel a pulling sensation against my teeth in the direction of the beings. And then I noticed that the song was coming from my mouth. Not that I was singing, but the song, the pulling, and the gathering event were all one and the same thing.

The significant part of this is that, like a dream where you accept the absurd as reality without question or without even noticing how absurd it is, this experience became a new and accepted reality. There was no question in my mind that it was real, and no memory of what “reality” was prior to the start of the experience. That is the one fundamental difference between the effects of Salvia and that of other hallucinogens.

After a few minutes the effects began to wear off and I became more aware of my surroundings. Or rather, I began to interpret my surroundings in the “normal” way. With that came a few moments of disbelief as I started to remember who I was, where I was, and what I was doing.

Common Elements of the Salvia World

After a few experiences I’m come to recognize some common elements.

The Salvia People
There is always the sensation of the presence of other beings, typically cartoon-like. On some occasions they have the feeling of being family characters - mother, father, cousins. I believe that this is related to the dream-like quality of the salvia world. In how many dreams are you completely alone, without other characters as part of the story?

Visuals
The main visual component consists of lines that flow, as if everything in my field of vision is composed of lines. The direction is different each time. One time it flowed towards the source of music that I was playing. On another occasion the lines flowed into me, coinciding with a prickly physical sensation so that it seemed that the lines were glass daggers piercing my body.

The Soundtrack
There is always some type of “soundtrack” that forms the fabric of the salvia world. If I have actual music playing then that music becomes the structure of that world. But when no music is playing then it creates its own. It’s as if the salvia is saying “oh you don’t have music? Well then I’ll pull it out of you!” The music is also cartoon-like.

“I’ve been here before”
There is a feeling of familiarity that is more pronounced with each episode, and the strength of the familiarity is matched only by my amazement at how I could have forgotten it. Is it so familiar because it is really a part of myself that I’m usually not conscious of - until salvia reveals it? It has definitely become what salvia is for me, as if it exists as a real, distinct world within the plant, waiting for me to return.

So What is There to be Gained?

I have to honestly say that I do not get a “spiritual” feeling in the way that I expected. The salvia world that I enter is just as familiar as the non-salvia world. The beings have a sense of reality but seem like material beings, not ethereal. There is no pointing to a higher source. The concept of a higher source seems irrelevant - that is not their concern. All of the components come from material reality - the identity of the entities (mom, dad, cousins), the music, even the environment (in one case I felt as if I was on a farm).

I’m incredibly fascinated by the feelings of familiarity, as well as the music that is always present. I’m also fascinated by the similarity between my experiences and the experiences of others. What’s with the cartoon-like characters, and what is it about our brains that reacts to salvia in this way to create them (assuming they are not, in fact, independent beings)? Is it possible to communicate coherently with them? If so, can anything be learned? Can I get a handle on what the music is - maybe remembering it enough to repeat it upon returning? Can I achieve lucidity to the point of being able to be mentally in both worlds at the same time, or to be able to switch my focus at will?

There is still much to explore.

But perhaps a more sober lesson is how easily our sense of reality can be manipulated. How much of what we take for granted as reality is actually a manipulation?

Maybe the salvia people have the answers.


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23 Responses to “Is Salvia Divinorum Really a Teacher Plant?”
  1. jennifer says:

    Wow… very interesting!

    I’ve never experienced something like this… thank you for sharing yours!

    I too wonder how much of our “reality” is shaped by our survival needs. We are so limited by our senses, and our impulse for life and existence is so strong that I wonder if even what we “know” is just a tiny, tiny bit of what is possible to “know.”

    I mean if we had different senses our world would look completely different to us… nothing would be the same.

    Ahhh it is so fun to ponder and so very more vast than my brain can take in! :-)

    Thanks for this very cool post!

    Jen

  2. Liara Covert says:

    This is quite a mezmerizing post. Just as you might choose to call some plants “teachers,” you could also turn to a pendulum and say the same thing about the object or a dowser. If you’re looking for answers, you only ever find them within yourself. The means for the journey could be mind altering substances or some other tool which strengthens your faith in what you already know and may have temporarily forgot.

  3. chris says:

    Thanks, Jennifer! There is a news video you may have seen of a boy who is blind but who is still able to navigate through his world by snapping his fingers and “seeing” objects through echo-location. Imagine what a completely different sense of reality he has.

    What impresses me about the salvia experience is, just as we think we “know” what reality is in normal consciousness, we can be made to be just as convinced that another state is reality. Very difficult to explain.

  4. chris says:

    Liara, insightful comment. It’s easy to see how someone could view pendulums and such as taking on a life of their own or acting under outside influences, and not realize that we are just in touch with ourselves - albeit the subconscious self. Daniel Siebert, who has spent many years studying salvia divinorum, has used it to divine answers to issues in life - almost like an oracle. The key is to prepare with a question before invoking the plant. This is yet another avenue to explore.

  5. nick says:

    Wow, I know exactly what you’re talking about. The lines and the cartoon-like people. I tried some 10x last night and there were cartoon, midget-like characters wanting me to go with them. I did not get a chance to go or say yes or no, they made the desicion for me and then I was completely sober, as if they were saying you’re not ready yet. Instead of family members it seemed like a business world for me. There were like secretaries, and security guards, and some weird stuff like that. It was weird. I would definitely like to try and see the salvia world. But you must treat this plant with respect. This is not a drug, I dont really know what you would call it. But I see resemblence between our trips, without the music.

    I’ll be back and let u know how my 2nd attempt and breaking through to the other side!

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  7. Rich says:

    The music that you hear during your “trip” when there is no music is the same music that musicians hear when they “write” music. That’s where it comes from. They have the ability to do “it” and remember “it” without the plant teacher.

    Very cool!

  8. Mike says:

    My experience was only slightly different - They were not asking me to come with them - they were dragging me. One by one they came, pulling a piece of me away with them until there was only a very small bit of what I consider to be “me” was left.
    This was not the most enjoyable experience I have ever had but possibly the most profound.
    Its good to know that others agree that its not simply an hallucination.
    Let us know how you get on Nick - good luck

  9. Bill says:

    Oh boy, here we go. Yea, so I didn’t get the music like you did. Maybe it’s because I play guitar. I didn’t get the lines either. It felt more like wind to me and it was pushing me backwards. The salvia people were there but I couldn’t see them. They were pulling me away from my friends who were in the room. I thought I was dying and not coming back. I remembered exactly what the reality I had before i smoked the stuff was like and I wanted it back real bad because this was kinda sucking. So bad in fact that it made me kind of angry. I was angry for 2 reasons. 1. My friend didn’t tell me it was going to be like THIS! Holy Crap! and 2. Oh no I’m being transported to a completely unfamiliar reality! How am I going to get back to my wife and my friends? I was pissed off and scared and coming down sucked so bad that i don’t even wanna do it again. So I’m not doing it again. I’ll stick to meditation and astral projection thank you very much . :-) I’ve done acid about 5 times in my life and I don’t even like it anymore either. I have five hits of blotter in my drawer I got last week and I don’t think I’m even going to do it. I guess I’ve had enough of the mind altering substances. Now I want “awareness” which is what I get when I don’t do psychedelics. Psychedelics cloud my visions and I learn more from my non drug induced visions than I ever have with any drugs. But that’s just me I guess.

  10. Ben says:

    Wow, great post Chris, I really enjoyed reading it.

    I’ve not taken enough Salvia at one time to have any “deep” experiences such as yours, but many years ago while experimenting with large doses of diphenhydramine hydrochloride, at some point my reality did slip into a different state where I had no idea I was tripping or under the effect of this substance. When I woke up the next day, I remembered much of the experience, and was simultaneously fascinated and frightened by knowing that last night while tripping I really had no awareness or acknowledgement of what was happening, I was just on auto-pilot in a sense, like in a non-lucid dream.

    (BTW, this wasn’t an experience worth repeating, and can hardly be a called a trip in the same vein as LSD, mushrooms, Salvia, etc. )

    I’m intrigued by the music you hear on Salvia. Over the years I’ve noticed this happen many times after smoking quality marijuana. Often I will catch myself listening to a beat only to realize that all this time it’s been in my head. I do play lots of instruments and love to make music - it’s almost like the weed is bringing it to the forefront of my consciousness?

    It’s always such a subtle thing though, like background music, it’s just there, part of the experience.

  11. Smoke Salvia says:

    Great article. My first experience was very strange. I probably wont explain it well, but in elementary school we had an art class and the teacher taught us to draw some old spooky looking house silhouette at halloween, with the windows colored orange to make it look like light was coming from the house.

    So anyway, during my first salvia trip, it felt like i was INSIDE that friggin house I drew in elementary school.

  12. chris says:

    @Smoke Salvia: I do believe that salvia uses pieces of real-life experiences to create the salvia world - similar to what our dreams do. The strange part is that we aren’t freaked out by our dreams, but this salvia-induced waking dream state is a different story.

    @Ben: Yes, the background music is “just there” for me as well, similar to your experience with marijuana. I will never forget the first time when the whole trip began with one long stretching/straining musical note. The last time (with 20x) I can faintly remember a chanting/singing of words that sounded like “the witches-na … the witches-na”. And it sounded so “normal”! Glad you enjoyed the post!

    @Bill: I’m sorry to hear that your experience was that unpleasant. It might have something to do with the lucid nature of your trip. If I was as aware of the distinction between the saliva world and the real world - remembering that there is a real world - as you were, I might have been distressed as well. I agree, though, that salvia is not a short-cut to enlightenment. It’s just one of many tools at our disposal for exploring our own minds - some work while others don’t.

    @Nick: Yes, let us know how your second attempt goes!

  13. Ryan says:

    Thanks for the fascinating first-hand account. I’m really intrigued by the “cultural expression” of salvia in the US: the salvia people, or the “machine elves,” coupled with the “emptiness” that pervades so many reports. Very different from the Mazatec’s experiences. I sometimes wonder about machine elves as a mirror image for our disconnection to nature, because it seems to me that salvia really brings alive the nature spirits, or the “aliveness” of the everyday objects and creatures in our world.

  14. Frater Renatus says:

    Salvia divinorum…
    I also feel like I’m dying, struggling and feeling crushed by the weight of The Great Force. But once I surrender absolutely,
    I can relax more, the people/beings are there in the other world and are sly and witty, not cartoony, and have been expecting me and treat me like a very loved amnesiac who just remembered the real(er) world, and each time I think I learning this sacrament, It blows that farce away, yet the rubber, smother, plastic, well the whole world just becomes a plastic substance, I think it feels like dying because it is dying in a way, one must fully surrender up the body, and the mind/soul flies free with the trip and beings. I’m glad others have had this similar unpleasant feeling so we can learn to bypass it and get to the heart of the experience quicker with less torture to get there. In L.V.X. Bro. R.

  15. chris says:

    @Ryan: I’m glad you liked the story. Interesting idea about how salvia brings out the “aliveness” of different aspects of our world. One YouTube poster/salvia user has described how the plant tries to bring us back to nature - especially as a better platform from which to communicate with it.

    @Frater Renatus: I need to overcome that fear and let go. When I do I’ll be sure to report on the experience. I did have a recent glimpse in a dream of how frightening it would be to actually wake up from the Matrix of this world. It’s not the exhilarating experience one might expect it to be, but if enough people start reporting on the beneficial results of letting go, the less frightening it will be for future participants.

  16. lb says:

    I did this stuff only once…my buddy obviously didn’t read the instructions on how to sit with someone to make sure everything goes smoothly … i thought we were smoking weed..i filled my lungs to capacity….and 30 seconds later i was there..wherever there is…..we were playing poker until the toke….then i was…i think i was out of body..really i was looking at myself in my chair hoping to take back my body…it lasted about 20 minutes…next day i looked it up on the net and i was amazed at how i went through the stages …i’m not sure whether to thank my bud or kick his !$##$…i’ll never go there again.
    Maybe that altered state of consciousness is the real world ? I didn’t see the Goddess.

  17. Nuctemeron says:

    Try mixing Salvia with some plain-ol-grass …
    I’ve used 25x of Salvia Divinorum with some “Skunk”
    since Salvia itself didn’t have any effect on me and a few of us.

    But the mixed stuff … ohh, boy! Did it work! =D

  18. Shine says:

    Hi, It was very interesting to read in your blog your experience. Thank you for sharing it also. What I have to say about Salvia and other sacred plants, (sacred because they come from our creator and they have specific properties to wake up some of the organs, glands and the mind to makes us capable to reconnecting with the Universe) the plans will not make you close to God, it is your faith, all the spiritual work that you have done with yourself what will bring you the keys on how to fill up your spirit with the right food for it. I feel sad because if the government starts to consider this plant as a drug like marijuana, then it will be very difficult to get and they will destroy it and make it very expensive and difficult to find.
    Salvia is a beautiful gift from our Creator that makes an amazing tea for all stomach and intestinal infections
    Salvia, Boldo and Romero herbs together.

    The evil or divinity in the things on earth are not on the things but in the minds that are looking at it.

    I am very impressed with your website, great Job!!!

  19. TravisBickle says:

    I agree Frater Renatus

  20. Luke says:

    It was very interesting to read your account of the salvia experience because it closely mimics the experiences I’ve had with it. I’ve dabbled in a wide range of hallucinogens and always I seem to be surrounded by strange entities. Salvia, especially, as the entities try to coax me to follow them. On another occasion I had to untangle myself from them to get out of my friend’s vehicle. Needless to say, this plant opens up a whole new realm of consciousness and could really be beneficial if studied scientifically. Unfortunately I’ve heard rumors of attempts to make it illegal. It’s ridiculous how the government force feeds us alcohol and prescription drugs but denounces the use of certain natural plants.

  21. eric says:

    What factors determine how a salvia trip will go? This weekend i will try salvia, but im scared that i will have a terrifying trip. Also how can you determine the meaning of a trip? Is it bad to be scared or anxious while smoking salvia? Lastly can you control the trip….as in your movements and the things you say?

  22. chris says:

    @Luke: Unfortunately, salvia is already illegal in several states. Though the federal government seems to be taking its time evaluating the herb - which is a good sign.

    @eric: Each person’s experience is unique. Try to be in as relaxed an environment as possible, with minimal physical and mental distractions. From what I’ve seen, the scariest part seems to be the experiences that involve the “sensation” that all you’ve known and loved was just an illusion. If you are prepared to experience that … but the feeling goes away as you return and you eventually regain confidence in “reality”. Some people don’t experience this, but instead have a very peaceful trip. You might consider plain leaves, a low extract (5x), or even chewing the leaves. Another suggestion, if you smoke the extracts, is to take a short hit, see how it goes, then take another short hit, etc. Good luck, and let me know how it goes!

    Regarding controlling your movements - until you know how you react, it’s best to have a sitter present. Some feel the need to “bolt” - maybe it’s a need to experience this reality in 3D, a way to regain your bearings. But this is primarily during the full-fledged “break-through” experience.

  23. Garth says:

    Chris,

    I’ve read several of the accounts at Erowid and have (in my limited experience) never had anything approaching a “mystical” experience. But I did recognize a couple of aspects of your experiences.

    My first several trips were using just the raw unenhanced leaf. No sensations of fear, but I also could never really remember where I’d been and the trips were short. I did always feel a sensation of being warm, and fuzzy and loved. I then graduated to 5X and 10X leaf. I had several similar experiences with a lot in common.

    The first thing was that as soon as the drug took effect, I immediately snapped into another reality. Like you, I recognized this new reality immediately and I had no question that it was “real.” I was always amazed that I had “forgotten” that it existed. Unlike you, (and most other people apparently), there were no teletubbies, or speaking plants or other mystical creatures. It was just another world…just like this one only different. I did commonly experience things like fractals–the world would begin to subdivide into repeated patterns.

    I usually smoked outside late at night (my wife didn’t want the smell of smoke in the house). On several of the trips, I felt that if I weren’t with my wife, I wouldn’t make it back to the “real world.” So I’d race from the patio into the bedroom and collapse in bed next to my wife. Not good. Broke a couple of bongs that way, because during this little journey I was completely under the influence. I typically wouldn’t remember much about the trip to the bedroom.

    The final thing was that while under the influence I’d lose track of my body position. In the dream-state, my body would (for example) slowly roll upside down, and I’d feel that my “real” body was doing the same. It wasn’t, but it was so scary and uncomfortable that it would often pull me out of the dream-state–or cause me to spill another bong trying to right myself. I found that if I could lay in bed and hug a pillow, I could experience the rolling sensation without needing to return to regular consciousness.

    After several trips, I simply lost interest in doing more. I haven’t had an experience in maybe 9 months. Although I’ve been thinking about it recently.

    One more common experience for me: After smoking, I’d almost always feel incredibly aroused for about the next 24 hours. Just a little pleasant side effect. :)

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