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	<title>Comments on: California&#8217;s Balanced Approach to Salvia Divinorum</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chris cuellar</title>
		<link>http://theordinarymystic.com/blog/californias-balanced-approach-to-salvia-divinorum/#comment-29447</link>
		<dc:creator>chris cuellar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS BLOG IS RIGHT. SALVIA SHOULD NOT BE SOLD TO THOSE UNDER THE AGE. tHIS SAME APPROACH SHOULD BE USED IN THE CASE OF MARIJUANA BUT SALVIA IS A NON ADDICTIVE DRUG WHOSE EFFECTS LAST ONLY A MATTER OF MINUTES. I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE OF THE "DRUG". BUT SA I SAID IT IS NON ADDICTIVE SO ONE WILL NOT BE "HOOKED" ON THE "DRUG"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS BLOG IS RIGHT. SALVIA SHOULD NOT BE SOLD TO THOSE UNDER THE AGE. tHIS SAME APPROACH SHOULD BE USED IN THE CASE OF MARIJUANA BUT SALVIA IS A NON ADDICTIVE DRUG WHOSE EFFECTS LAST ONLY A MATTER OF MINUTES. I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE OF THE &#8220;DRUG&#8221;. BUT SA I SAID IT IS NON ADDICTIVE SO ONE WILL NOT BE &#8220;HOOKED&#8221; ON THE &#8220;DRUG&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Salvia D</title>
		<link>http://theordinarymystic.com/blog/californias-balanced-approach-to-salvia-divinorum/#comment-28468</link>
		<dc:creator>Salvia D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US should ban tobacco and alcohol too. Both FAR FAR more dangerous than salvia.

Anyone else sick to death of this hypocrisy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US should ban tobacco and alcohol too. Both FAR FAR more dangerous than salvia.</p>
<p>Anyone else sick to death of this hypocrisy?</p>
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		<title>By: Meditation</title>
		<link>http://theordinarymystic.com/blog/californias-balanced-approach-to-salvia-divinorum/#comment-27645</link>
		<dc:creator>Meditation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 10:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meditation is a great way to connect with your spirituality. Not only that but we can actually heal our mind and body through meditation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meditation is a great way to connect with your spirituality. Not only that but we can actually heal our mind and body through meditation.</p>
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		<title>By: Loslore</title>
		<link>http://theordinarymystic.com/blog/californias-balanced-approach-to-salvia-divinorum/#comment-26981</link>
		<dc:creator>Loslore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in regard to the last post: "the use of plants as a means of expanding consciousness will always require a price you don't have to pay, if you meditate."

Use of plants is a tool in the same way meditation, fasting, aceticism are tools. Some people know develop skills in order to know how to use these tools, while others do not. Maybe you are speaking of the $cost$ of the plant - because meditation is free? Everything has a cost - time, effort, the pain involved with prolonged sitting postures for example. 

What we are dealing with is a discipline in one way or another. Plants and entheogens appear to force such discipline ON SOME PEOPLE. While others it forces the opposite - reckless anarchy. But in each case what we have is the intention of our actions, the purpose behind the intention, and the desired result, which informs the purpose. Those who know what they are doing approach it this way, with respect. This is true of meditation as well, but I think the main difference between use of plants and meditation is that plants have the ability for transformative experiences because of their ability to push us or teach us beyond our original purpose, intentions, and desired result. Perhaps meditation is as transformative at times, but it takes years of practice  - which again is the cost...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in regard to the last post: &#8220;the use of plants as a means of expanding consciousness will always require a price you don&#8217;t have to pay, if you meditate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Use of plants is a tool in the same way meditation, fasting, aceticism are tools. Some people know develop skills in order to know how to use these tools, while others do not. Maybe you are speaking of the $cost$ of the plant - because meditation is free? Everything has a cost - time, effort, the pain involved with prolonged sitting postures for example. </p>
<p>What we are dealing with is a discipline in one way or another. Plants and entheogens appear to force such discipline ON SOME PEOPLE. While others it forces the opposite - reckless anarchy. But in each case what we have is the intention of our actions, the purpose behind the intention, and the desired result, which informs the purpose. Those who know what they are doing approach it this way, with respect. This is true of meditation as well, but I think the main difference between use of plants and meditation is that plants have the ability for transformative experiences because of their ability to push us or teach us beyond our original purpose, intentions, and desired result. Perhaps meditation is as transformative at times, but it takes years of practice  - which again is the cost&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rainer</title>
		<link>http://theordinarymystic.com/blog/californias-balanced-approach-to-salvia-divinorum/#comment-24132</link>
		<dc:creator>rainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I am a new visitor of this blog. 

I find it reasonable that the government didn't forbid the trade of this plant.
On the other hand, the use of plants as a means of expanding consciousness will always require a price you don't have to pay, if you meditate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I am a new visitor of this blog. </p>
<p>I find it reasonable that the government didn&#8217;t forbid the trade of this plant.<br />
On the other hand, the use of plants as a means of expanding consciousness will always require a price you don&#8217;t have to pay, if you meditate.</p>
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